SS： I understand why you would support Trump burying TPP, because, obviously it's very unnerving when a huge deal like that excludes a huge country like yours from the region. But China has no devised a Free Trade Pact for the region itself - it's called the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership - let me ask you think, is Beijing ready to welcome the US to become a part of it?

苏菲·谢瓦纳兹：我理解为什么中国赞同特朗普退出TPP，显然中国作为在亚太地区举足轻重的国家，被这样一个重大协定排除在外肯定会感到不安。但中国也在该地区发起了一个自由贸易协定——地区全面经济伙伴关系协定（RCEP）——请问，对此中国欢迎美国的加入吗？

WW：Of course, I think if the U.S. can join, can participate, we will welcome them. Nowadays the core value of Chinese foreign policy is "win-win", an open, inclusive. So, anyone who wants China's initiative, China welcomes. For example, the biggest new initiative, One Belt-One Road, we welcome any country to join the One Belt-One Road initiative. So, I think, Russia did a right now, but the U.S. now still hesitates to join or not. This is very interesting.

王文：当然，我们非常欢迎美国的加入。当今中国外交政策的核心价值是双赢、开放、包容。所以我们欢迎所有国家加入中国发起的协定。例如我们现在最重大的倡议——“一带一路”，中国欢迎所有国家加入。我认为俄罗斯积极参与的行为值得肯定，而美国至今仍摇摆不定。

SS：Also, I wanted to ask you about China that has always been content with being a leader of its own region, but right now, we're seeing China building the Silk Road infrastructure project and also investing so much in Africa - so is this tradition changing, is Beijing ready to seek more influence abroad?

苏菲·谢瓦纳兹：另一个问题是，中国一直习惯于在地区充当领导角色，但是现在我们看到中国正在建设丝绸之路基础设施项目，在非洲大量投资，这是否意味着中国正在打破传统，谋求更广泛的国际影响力？

WW：Of course, China is second largest economy and in 10 years China will be the largest economy in the world, and also in 3 or 5 years China will the largest consumption market in the world. So China, of course it wants to provide international, public good the world. In the past rest of the world underestimated China's contribution to the global governance, so 3 years ago, President Xi launched a new initiatives, as you mentioned, a Silk Road initiative, or One Belt One Road initiative. It means that as a new great power, Chinese want to contribute to the world with peaceful, with "win-win" principles, without war, without conflict. I think, it's a good thing for the world.

王文：当然，中国是第二大经济体，未来十年中国将成为世界最大的经济体，未来3到5年中国将成为世界最大的消费市场。所以，中国当然希望给国际社会提供更多的公共产品。过去，世界低估了中国对全球治理的贡献。三年前，习近平主席发起了“一带一路”倡议，这意味着中国作为新兴大国，希望在和平、双赢、避免冲突和战争的前提下为世界作出贡献。

SS： Finally, really shortly, I am going to ask you about Trump - because you can't really tell what Trump wants from China, because one day he says one thing, another day he says another thing - do you think that's part of his strategy, to be unpredictable, and if yes, is this working?

苏菲·谢瓦纳兹：最后我想简短地问您一个关于特朗普的问题，特朗普对中国的态度一直不甚明确、朝令夕改，您是否认为这种不可预测性其实是他的一种策略，如果是的话，对中国起作用吗？

WW： Trump is a very interesting guy, and now he is studying, he's learning how to be a President of the U.S., and he's a smart guy to learn something. So, I think, we cannot analyze Trump according to election campaign period. We should give Trump enough time to learn, to study as a President, so I think that China has confidence to engage with Trump and to tell Trump how this deal will benefit to the U.S.' core interests in the future. I think cooperation between U.S. and China, cooperation between U.S. and Russia will a benefit to U.S. interests. This is my viewpoint.

王文：特朗普这个人很有趣，他非常擅长学习，现在他正在学习如何做一个美国总统。所以我认为不应该根据竞选时期的言论来分析特朗普，我们需要给特朗普学习的时间。中国有信心与特朗普打交道，让他明白什么符合美国的长远核心利益。中美合作、美俄合作符合美国的利益，这是我的观点。

SS： Dr. Wang, thank you very much for this interview, we wish you best of luck.

苏菲·谢瓦纳兹：王博士，非常感谢您接受我们的采访，祝您一切顺利。